Few days ago I read a blog about how James Dobson of focus on the familywarned of a civil war that could happen if the Church and Christians kept compromising on Biblical morality and worldly relativism he was a bit more precise in words but this is the gist of it.
The writer of the blog cited this from a leftist emag rightwingwatch.org and generally believed Dobson really meant a war with guns and bombs maybe like the war Ireland had.
After reading both articles I felt that Dobson may have been talking about a real civil war but I think Dobson was talking about a civil war within the church that if happens could it destroy the church as we know it. He may have meant both, if our leaders will not stand up for the rights of the church and Christians we could see dark days ahead.
My reply to the blogger was this “I’m not sure Mr. Dobson’s civil war means actual killing of people but the killing and injuring of souls. I believe what he maybe referring to is a war that will break the church, pitting two sides against each other.
The Conservative Christian who feels Christians need to follow Gods Natural and Moral law, their intent is not to judge people into submission but to point out what happens to a society that refuses to follow these laws most of what can be found Biblically.
The Liberal Christian that accepts the person for who they are regardless of the sin. They never try to judge behavior that is based in sin feeling that loving the person and showing the example of love will be enough and let God be the Judge of that heart.
The problem arises when Christians and churches attached themselves to sinful behavior that God has condemned and or asks us not to condone or be a part of. No one is saying don’t let the sinner in the sinner is already in but the sinner must repent and do the best to sin no more.
This is where the civil war can begin and it will be started by outside forces mainly political and media driven forces that want to see the church die and Christians be thrown in utter chaos”. The blogger didn’t even acknowledge anything I said but stated Dobson’s remarks sounded like a war to her.
At this time I see Christians already engaging in a civil war, churches are still on the sidelines but soon I suspect this will change with court rulings and new laws past. Again if our political and judicial leaders do not protect the Church and Christian rights dark days are ahead.
There already is a division between active Christians that feel Gods natural and moral law is being challenged and Christians that feel those types of Christians are too judgmental and need to allow God to be the judge and Christians need to love. The problem with the latter Christian is they give no boundaries to how far Biblical immorality can be taken before one takes a stand and many excuses will you give to laws that condone Biblical immorality.
There are three types of Christians to this civil war that I believe is in its infancy. 1st type are Christians that defend Gods natural and moral law, his commandments and they refuse to compromise on these issues.
2nd type are Christians of the liberal nature that feel love is first and foremost and we should not judge if we are to lead people to Christ.
These Christians are willing to bend the rules or reinterpret them to make everyone feel comfortable.
Like the conservative Christian they condemn the other for the way they go about their business. They do not take Gods natural law and moral as serious because those can be always changing much like relativism there is not always a right and wrong way, some even believe all gods lead to heaven.
Mind you not all believe this some just see others as judgmental and thus take the opposite side.
3rd type are Christians are the ones sitting on the sidelines not wanting to be labeled either. They go to church or not, donate to charities or a church but do not get evolved with politics or social issues they have a family to raise mind you they don’t have time for this.
In some ways they are correct, they don’t have time due to everyday issues, issues due to some part politics and some parts social that can be very powerful and labeling
Money, time and family weigh down on them and those come first, they will sometimes support issues with money but will don’t take a stand the question is are you this Christian because this is the biggest type of Christian.
There might be a time when everyone will have to take that stand, I believe the civil war has begun and Christians are starting to take sides. Its sad this has to happen but I believe God demands us to follow him and to obey his commandments and uphold his moral law while others feel this is too strong and it needs to be crushed.
This division might destroy the church I believe or it will certainly divide the church and it is already starting to happen.
We know of several church denominations that have compromised on Biblical moral issues while others have stayed true to traditional Biblical moral issues. I suspect this civil war will slowly get bigger and eventually it will demand all church denominations to take a stand and when that happens division will start and in some cases it already has.
What are the stands that will fuel this civil war? 1: Compromising on atheism and natural science the intermingling of the two to make everyone happy or at least some happy.
2: Compromising on sex and how the church views moral and immoral activity (this is one issue that will bring the church into a civil war it spits churches all the time).
3: Allow relativism to be apart church doctrine, no right and wrong just whatever fits your way of life.
4: Allowing or changing the act of homosexuality to be a non sin issue, this I believe will be the catalyst of allowing all sexual behaviors a right to exist in our society you may laugh but it all starts somewhere.
5: Condoning abortion to the point we no longer speak out against this atrocity.
6: Reinterpret the scriptures of the Bible or saying the writers of the New Testament are no longer relevant in today’s world thus saying the Holy Spirit is irrelevant.
So what will you do, what side will you take or have you taken. Typing this up its obvious I lean a certain way and I believe this way to be true.
I believe God spoke and continues to speak and to not listen and try and reinterpret what God has said in order to water down our faith is dangerous for us and our society.
All six fuels I listed are dividing Christians now except for the ones sitting on the fence who have no time to know what is going on.
Prayer is good it is always good but I believe we will need to take this further and prayer with action will be needed.
Understand what God says (read your Bible and ask questions), know him and pray to him (church and Bible studies). Repent from our sins and ask for forgiveness and do our best not to sin again. Uphold Gods natural and moral law but also forgive and love your neighbor.
This cartoon was posted by a Facebook friend the other day and I thought it was quite interesting since I follow both the abortion and communism issues fairly close.
What this cartoon does fail to show is the number of abortions worldwide making the number much more staggering at 1.7 billion from 1973 to 2013, 40 years of society that allows death based on a lie.
I find the difference between Nazism, communism and row V wade is Nazi’s and the Communist party’s actions were so brutal and in your face with their philosophy of killing and who they killed that they failed to convince the world this was a good or acceptable idea.
Progressive leftist who are now the new communist party without the sickle and hammer are able to hide the killings of 57.5 millions of humans from the world by killing them where nobody could see them in the womb then convincing society a lie that this is a right to allow women the control over their bodies.
In reality women always have been in control of their own bodies but legalized abortion allowed people to kill without anyone viewing the actual murder.
Progressives now are in the process to brainwash people that this is a much needed procedure that will cure population control, end global warming and fix economic inequality.
If we look deep into the progressive arsenal we find communism and atheism both follow this creed to have population control, promote global environmental extremism and economic equality.
This is why I feel any Christian that tries and walk the line of economic equality or environmental extremism are walking down a path of destruction filled with abortion, socialism and secularism and find a direct conflict with the Christians faith.
For a Christian to remain true to God’s word and walk with Jesus they cannot compromise with God’s morality and ethics otherwise they risk watering down God’s word and Jesus’ life with immoral and inaccurate content so as to be relevant or equal with the today’s issues.
If you think comparing Nazism and communism with Row v Wade is over the top through one thought or another think about this. Everything Hitler, Stalin did in their country was legal.
Progressives love to frame abortion like this, “it’s our bodies your taking away a woman’s right to end her unborns life”. The article is scary to think our society is demanding this but reality is It’s not, abortion is becoming an extreme idea.
The writer of the article tries to call an abortion medical care, whatever happened to do no harm I guess they forgot that one. Those of us who oppose abortion are called anti-choice yet does not the choice start before the baby is made.
You choose to have sex and bam a child is made, yes we know pro abortion advocates will want to use rape and incest to condone abortion but be honest this is a tiny percent and believe it or not there are churches and groups out there that will take on the responsibility for these babies that are born.
If a culture wants to hang on to a small percentage and condone killing knowing unborn children are living and feeling inside the mother then we now have a corrupt and bankrupt society.
The shocking thing is they actually pick on more than one religion. Normally leftist progressives will focus on Christians or Christianity but I have to say they seemed to try and spread the love hate here. I’m going to just lay out the Christian points since I’m not Muslim or Hindu, I’ll stay out of their domain.
First of the 12 ideas they go after is the concept of Chosen people: This is where lack of reading and understanding your Biblical text bites you and shoots out a red flag in this article, for sure an atheist wrote this (Valerie Tarico).
Chosen people is not an idea it was a name given by God in the Old Testament to Abrahams lineage aka children of Abraham then later defined as the Jews or Hebrews. In the New Testament after dying for our sins by Jesus then his resurrection the chosen people now extend to everyone that excepted Jesus as their personal savior in their hearts and minds aka salvation.
Only God knows who will except his gift of salvation so only God has chosen these people something atheist and people not willing to give themselves to God can understand.
Heretics: people don’t like the word because it calls them out on their corrupting of God’s word. Heretics tend to water down Gods word or misinterpret Biblical text to fit their immorality.
Atheists look at it as religious people not being tolerant of others belief but as Christians we have to follow the basis of God’s word.
We are not to add to or take away to fit our needs. God fits our needs and we have to add to or take away from our lives to receive what God can give us.
Holy War: Something we see in Islam constantly and it’s apart of their culture. Early Catholic leadership used this to try and free Israel and fight back Islam but in all reality Christians do not fight in Holy wars not for the last few hounded centuries.
What one century mistake made has always followed the Catholic Church and Christianity but let’s be real guys Christians don’t do holy wars.
Blasphemy: Again the writer not understanding Biblical text somewhat gets this wrong in the Christian definition; they have it right in the Islamic definition.
God gives us free will so the ability to disbelieve in God is tolerated but does not go unpunished but man will not dole out that punishment that will be left up to God.
Making fun of Christians and God is something Christians do not like or encourage but living in a free society we have to deal with it and sometimes except its existence but we as Christians are not to harm the offender but to defend God with truth and righteousness.
Glorified suffering: Something that is not really practiced anymore. The definition given in this the article is basically an old concept of injuring one’s self to keep you on the narrow path of right.
Tarito use the crucifix as a glorified torture again not understanding Biblical history can bite you. God does not and has not suggested injuring one’s self as a means to make things right, this is a man made concept.
Forgiveness has always been God’s way of making things right since the resurrection of Jesus. Our suffering as Christians do glorify Gods name and I go back to again not knowing and understanding your Biblical text and history will mislead you from the truth.
Genital mutilation: something Islam is known for not Christianity or Jews but Tarico has the stones to say circumcision is a form of genital mutilation talk about being out of touch and hating anything that God has commanded is but wow.
Hell: Yes hell is in the Bible because God created hell, Tarico suggest it is used to change or curb bad behavior and to a degree it is used.
Man still sins and does bad things no matter if there is a heaven or hell. If there is no hell then there is no heaven, the idea of everyone except Hitler is going to heaven is just not reality or Biblical.
Christians are not happy that people Hitler and Stalin existed but they do and did and God has made a place for them.
Christians don’t want to see anyone walk that path but it is a reality since God gave free will. If the concept of hell scares you to do the right thing and seek God out then that’s not a bad thing in my opinion.
Eternal Life: Atheist hate this because it’s not fare so they call this a fairytale. Tarico again lacks the Biblical understanding and states the problem with eternal life is it keeps people from seeing the beauty of what we already have on earth.
“The real reason that the notion of eternal life is such a bad invention, though, is the degree to which it diminishes and degrades existence on this earthly plane. With eyes lifted heavenward, we can’t see the intricate beauty beneath our feet. Devout believers put their spiritual energy into preparing for a world to come rather than cherishing and stewarding the one wild and precious world we have been given”-Torico
Not so, eternal life is just a bigger reward. What is here on this earth is be bigger in heaven and in the new earth that God will have waiting for us. Believe me I have seen some of Gods greatest creations in this country and I can’t wait to see what he has in store for the next.
Male Ownership of Female Fertility: This idea is a complete misunderstanding of Biblical text to think God condones female ownership and women are slaves to men. No God celebrates women baring children as a great gift. Women were created by God to have children to continue the human race how much more of a gift from God could there be.
Bibliolatry (aka Book Worship): Now this is really stretching it and again the lack of understanding Biblical text shows us just how much lack of knowledge is at play here.
The concept of Bibliolatry is a direct contradiction of the 1st commandment and nobody that follows God and seeks the truth of Jesus worships the Bible they worships God of the Bible.
I suspect that Tarico thinks all religious idea are bad, I do feel she made some progress by adding Islam and Hindu to the list but but also loses it with some very illogical and communist remarks.
Pretty much she is reaching on most of these concepts. There is a lot of misunderstanding, hate, lack of Biblical studying and understanding of who and what God is so we can’t expect much with this blog.
END OF THE WEEK LOWDOWN DIRTY SAME OF IT ALL JAN 23
End of the week and this was a pretty big one, odd how it seesaws’ up and down like that.
First off; State of the union where our President has assured us “the shadow of crisis has passed, and the state of the union is strong.” Almost the way a king or god might say it or a wannabe king or god.
Besides telling us we are safe he also want to give everything away for, free collage, money, phones, houses you need it and can’t afford it somebody else will pay for it.
Movie American Sniper rolled out over 160 million dollars worth of movie as Hollywood tells the story of American Hero Chris Kyle and guess who is jealous. Seth Rogan and Michael Moore chime in to try and discredit both Kyle and the movie. First with Moore calling Kyle a coward. Rogan next by calling the movie Nazi propaganda.
Moore the true communist, he makes no apologies while Rogan cowers and tries to say well I didn’t mean that, maybe Moore was confused about what movie had the coward.
42 years ago yesterday January 22 the American government died, as Row v Wade was decided that abortion was legal and you the American citizen may have to pay for it.
This does not mean Americans are evil or died with its supreme court, no as an American I am against abortion and will keep this issue in prayer.
As Americans we can make a choice not to follow this destructive path and pledged to defend the lives that cannot defend themselves.
From Charisma Magazine Pope Francis has to tinker with his comments “Breed like rabbits” I guess the Pope should have read my blog that explained what he meant, maybe I need to apply for Popes PR man or proof his speeches. In the end the Pope tries to blame poverty on economic inequality again walking that fine line of socialist communism that is going to bite Francis hard someday or make him a world leader.
Again from Charisma Anderson Cooper tries to tackle Larry Tomczak comments that Hollywood has an agenda. This video goes to show us just how out of touch silver spoon Cooper is to the real world.
Again from Charisma Magazine Larry Tomczak fires back at Ellen DGeneres in response to both Cooper and Ellen, this is a great video well worth seeing if you’re trying to defend traditional marriage.
And finally fromBarb Wire John Kerry and James Taylor go on tour together in Paris to sing “you got a friend” to France. President could not make it so lets send singing Kerry and Taylor to smooth things over.
Like I said busy week in the news, I too churned out three blogs this week.Illogical and absurd Monday where I took some of the most illogical and absurd blogs and articles of the left and progressive and put them in more of a moral and ethical perspective fill free to take a look
To Canard is error to Reed is denied, I’m a big motocross and supercross fan I love off road motorcycles. Last week two racers Trey Canard and Chad Reed crashed into each other and I go over who was to blame and did the punishment and crimes make it all worthwhile for the both of them.
Ungrateful Success was my take on the American Sniper Michael Moore and Rogan jealousy freak out. Pretty much Moore is a liar and Rogan is a jealous coward read and you be the judge.
Little past halfway in the month and we here in California need rain!!! Yeah it’s been nice weather but we need rain. Also stay healthy there has been some nasty’s going around and people are getting sick so up that vitamin C if you will.
It’s Monday again and time for some more Illogical and absurd articles from main stream media. Somewhat of a slow news week so the progressives kind of pushed the throttle down on a few of these articles rehashing some old ideas that they would love us to pay for or make illegal.
Ok let’s understand who the main stream media is, they make up of cowards that shout from a glass door. Main stream media has no problem standing up for freedom of speech and expression when they know it won’t get them killed. They are not afraid of Christians or Buddhist because they know Christians won’t retaliate but with Islam they are afraid.
Biard states every time they draw a cartoon of Mohammad or God they defend freedom of speech and I say no you don’t. Every time you draw a cartoon blaspheming God or any other religious symbol you are doing just that blaspheming a symbol that somebody holds important.
If you have no believes in anything then it makes it easy for you to make the statement your defending freedom of speech but look at it this way. If I were to tell unflattering embellishments about you or your family you might get offended you might even try and sue me.
Charlie Hebdo is a vulgar magazine at times, I’m not going to storm the doors and shoot your entire cartoonist but you insult my faith at times and I see nothing but insults not freedom in what you do.
Progressives and leftist love it when Pope Francis preaches about climate change and compromising on evolution but they hate it when people preach about birth control something very important to the Catholic faith.
This is where progressives despise Catholics and Christians for even thinking people take reproductive responsibility. Time keeps it tame but doe quote one person here to dig at the Popes stand on birth control.
They quote Jun Chura a former street child “Many terrible things happened to (street children) like drugs and prostitution,” said a former street child named Jun Chura. “Why is God allowing such things to happen? And why are there only very few people helping us?”
My response to Chura is I might ask you the same question, why are you allowing this to happen. You see the Pope and the Catholic/Christian church do not want to punish people by taking away their contraceptive tools they want you to take responsibility and follow God’s will.
Even if you can financially afford ten children does not mean you have ten children, can you emotionally afford ten children. Psalms 127-128, God blesses one that has children but he does require us to walk with him to be successful. Basically this, if you’re not willing to fear and walk with God then you just might limit your success.
France has some interesting laws that are very free when it comes to speech but very strict when speech and expression becomes treason. France allows freedom of speech to a degree but when it become treasonous it can levy a stiff penalty in jail time something America seems not to practice thus is why Slate probably just does not get it.
The issue is Islam has no clue what true freedom is, both the Islamist practicing countries have little or no freedom and the religion its self has no freedom either.
Most progressive’s lack the understanding of freedom and values as well, feeling a government entitled society is freedom they just do not get free will and rugged individualism and their value system has no value.
The French are trying to play sides, embracing European socialism and still trying to stay as a free state can be quite complicated and will yield a very unfair society.
At this point pretty much if you’re a mother or father you have to option to stay at home for a few months of bonding time without pay.
Those of you that can afford it do so, some have special insurance that pay the whole time and some don’t so they have to come back to work early seems unfair.
Should not a mom and a dad bond with their new born child why are the American people not willing to be taxed enough so all moms and dads at least the moms be paid to stay home?
You have to put yourself in the eyes of the employer; I know that evil corporation you work for that just makes tons of money off your sweat. It’s very hard on a company to have to replace somebody for a short time then give that position back.
The concept of free trade and independence is lost if a private business cannot do anything without the federal or state permission.
There is a compromise that our government could make but wont. If staying home and bonding with your child is so important and I believe it is as far as the mother is concerned then why not lower taxes.
Lower income tax maybe end the income tax as we know it, lower gas tax, lower property tax make it so a two parent family can afford for only one to work.
I know that does not work for everyone since everyone makes different pay something progressives would love to change but that’s called communism.
For the most part it would work if we lowered taxes so families could take home more money and have one parent stay home nurturing the children I know it worked for our family.
It’s easy for progressives to cry on this issue saying it’s not fair but their hypocrisy is huge on family values.
They want taxes to increase so both parents have to work, use that tax money so both can stay at home for a short while and bond then send that child to government daycare and public school.
It just seems smarter to lower taxes and have the parent stay home and bond and develop their child instead of having the tax payer do it.
Basically Bill Maher is never really quoted but for those of you that don’t know Maher has said that God is a serial killer in the Old Testament.
Both Maher and Shermer don’t back any historical data up but take Biblical text out of order it’s mainly Shermer’s lack of understanding of Old Testament Biblical history of Israel and the tribes and societies that surrounded the Jews.
When you deal with atheists that bring this kind of hate to the table it’s like talking to a brick wall. They use this double standard to hate on Biblical belief and Christianity because they are afraid of Islam.
Christians are an easy target because true Christians practice peace through Christ something Maher and Shermer conveniently don’t read in the New Testament or even mention in their rants.
The truth is Maher and Shermer hate Jews and Christians because we try and live Gods truth, no we are not perfect we make mistakes but God forgives us something that Shermer I would bet hates to admit.
In Shermer’s eyes Christians live this smug holier than thou hypocritical life and they can’t stand that. If he really knew the truth and that is I don’t always live a holy life and yes I’m a hypocrite at times but every day I ask for forgiveness and every day God forgives me
This story is near to me because I work in health care and at one time I worked in nursing/convalescent homes. I can say to you without a doubt the people that work in these nursing homes do not get paid much but the work is not that technical.
Whether you agree with this judge’s decision or not I will say this, if you really are concern for your loved ones you need to pay for their care because government insurance and that is who is paying for the majority of these people does not pay well meaning the nursing homes don’t get reimbursed well from social security or Medicare.
If you want the best care for your loved ones you’re going to have to pay out of pocket. I know that seems odd all those years of paying in to social security and it does not take care of your parents well welcome to the real world FDR was wrong and your loved ones fell for it.
The best hope at this time is for the Supreme Court to make this a states rights issue something Jeb Bush used to get out of stating whether he is either for or against the homosexual movement.
The big question then will be if a gay marriage that is legal in California will it still be good in say like Oklahoma. Hugh Hewitt made a good statement on his radio show a few days ago stating that you may have a legal conceal carry permit in Texas but that permit is not valid in New York.
No matter what happens the fall and decline of the defense of marriage is here but it’s not the end. Abortion is legal but we still fight and pray for that issue daily and this issue is no different.
AMERICA IS NOT THE GREATEST COUNTY BUT COMPARED TO WHAT?
I think a lot of people have seen this clip from the HBO TV series “Newsroom”, when it came out it hit social media like a wildfire I must of saw it posted on Facebook at least 5 times each time getting a seal of approval from the average American. The thought was finally somebody in the media has made a stink on how our country has fallen, we are not the greatest country in the world but I ask compared to what are we not the greatest.
I personally think America fell from grace in 1973 when the Supreme Court legalized the killing of unborn children and all the states in the Union just sat back and allowed it.
The most defenseless of them all and now it’s open season to do what you want. But not everyone has turned their back on the unborn so I won’t speak in the terms of we because many of us don’t condone and do our best to refute this law.
Now with that said I then ask in compared to what is America not so great. Mind you for all those of you that think this was just a wonderful rant on the truth of where this country has gone remember this. HBO Time Warner is a very liberal progressive company that is very anti family, anti conservative andanti Christian. Remember HBO is the media outlet that gives Bill Maher his speaking platform to spread all his hateful lies so are you still glad HBO gave you a small little piece of happiness with this rant from the “Newsroom”.
Now mind you I’m not tearing into Jeff Denials he’s just an actor this is all Time Warner and Aaron Sorkin are the ones trying to fool people into thinking they know and understand Americans, well they don’t.
Denials character “Will” rants that freedom is enjoyed by lots of countries and yes in nature the concept of freedom is enjoyed but have you ever been to those counties. Most have a tax system that would blow your mind; the average tax rate in those countries is 60% while Americans enjoy an average 18%. Tax rate but I guess if you’re a progressive everyone is just a selfish to want to keep your own money.
“Will” goes on to spout about the high mortality rate of children in America. The infant mortality rate in the rant is backwards, yes we are 173 but that’s the number from worst to best worst being number 1 in which Afghanistan is the leader.
Also doctors in other countries look at premature birth deaths as medical waist, child death is not counted but overlooked because if a child is dies at birth or not in full term it does not count not so in America we count every statistic.
Next we get the whine about what America use to be and what it stood for, well in the 1950’s America was recovering from a depression and a world war. In the 50’s Americans finally got to reach what was known as the American dream of owning their own home about 50% owned a home.
In the 1960’s America began the journey to explore space and put a man on the moon. In the process it put a strain on communist relations and started the economic destruction of the Soviet Union.
In the 70’s America lost its battle to being the country of right when the Supreme Court allowed abortion but this did not mean the People that lived in America has lost grace completely this now meant we knew where to draw a battle line.
In the 1980’s we put the noose on the Soviet Union and by the 1990’s a defeated evil empire. In the 90’s we developed a mass communication for the world with the internet and in the millennium America was punched in the gut September 11 2001 but we rebounded and helped protect not only our country but those of the free world from terrorism and radical Islam.
Yes right now we are going through a rough patch but this is where Sorkin and HBO lack the intelligence of understanding the American. Denials character “Will” references to America by what is seen by mass media and not what is done by the individual.
“Will” rambles on saying “we built great things”, ever heard of the freedom towers, the internet is faster and more powerful than when it was invented, the Iphone has more power than lunar space capsules did in the 1960’s. We found a cure for Ebola when we needed it the most. Groups like Samaritan’s Purse are feeding the hungry and caring for the sick worldwide and its individuals that help Groups like Samaritan Purse to succeed.
You see HBO and Sorkin has “Will” only seeing the country and not seeing the content of the country. They don’t see the individual and the daily sacrifices he and she go through. They don’t see the charity and triumphs the individual makes in his and hers life they only see what is reported and have no concept of what the American is and does.
No America is not the greatest nation it once was but I ask you what are the greatest nations, the 180 that have freedom, China, Cuba are they the greatest. What country does not strive to be like America and what country is beating people down at their borders, Spain, Holland what country Aaron Sorkin and HBO?
The small topic of the week has been Christians and the tolerance of torture so I would like to throw my two cents in to the topic as well because I believe there is more to this than what we want to admit.
This all started last week when my Senator from California Dianne Feinstein in my opinion committed treason and published the CIA reports on our interrogation practices used on war criminals from the 911 attack of 2001.
When Feinstein brought those interrogation tactics out into the public she not only put every American in this country at risk she put every American dignitary and every service men and women in the armed forces that serve around the world at risk as well not to mention the free world.
Feinstein should be impeached, arrested tried and sent to prison for treason for putting Americans at risk.
Now with that off my chest let us proceed, I believe this whole situation of torture to get much needed information to find Osama Bin Laden is very involved and cannot be just looked over as a bunch of CIA agents torturing prisoners of war because president George W Bush said it was fine.
The debate should Christian’s condone torture is a no brainer no they should not but we need to look at what got us to this time in our lives that we had to use torture to keep our country safe and exact revenge on the over 2500 people killed in the September 11th 2001 attack.
There are two levels to look at, one being the political and the other being the Christian view and both are valid and important to look at so let’s precede to understanding how we arrived at not only torture but revenge
First we will look at the political side of how we got to torture and what could have been done to avoid it. It started back in the 1980’s when Senator Charlie Wilson from Texas saw how the people of Afghanistan where getting slandered by the Russians.
Wilson convinced president Reagan and with the help of some other military geniuses acquired stinger missiles in the hands of Afghan rebels to fight against the invading communist Russians.
This was a win win kill for America, our stinger missiles helped the Afghan rebels defeat the Russians and forced them to retreat from Afghanistan. This also helped the Americans win the cold war by causing Russia to spend more money on a losing battle ultimately killing the Russian government and loosing the cold war.
When president Regans term ended George H Bush won the 1988 presidency. When the cold war ended Bush 41 stopped funding the Afghans allowing for the extreme Islam to make their move in the region.
In 1992 President Bill Clinton won the presidency and in 1993 the first attack on the world trade center was tried killing 6 people and injuring 1000. In 2000 the USS Cole was attacked in Yemen killing 17 service men.
The 1993 attack was a declaration of war, the 2000 USS Cole attack was a declaration of war and yet President Clinton stood by and did nothing. What should have been the beginning of trying to stop radical Islamic terrorist in 1993 became the killing of 17 service men with the attack on the USS Cole.
In 2000 President George W Bush was elected president and 8 months in to his first term September 11th 2001 20977 people died when radical Islamic terrorist flew American planes into the twin towers, the pentagon and the attempt of what might have been the US White House.
This should have been stopped back in 1993; Bush 41 and Clinton should have never stopped supplying the Afghan rebels with missiles they were friends of the U.S. and were keeping extreme Islam from growing in the region. But because our Presidents forgot our Middle Eastern allies and did not declare war on radical Islam in 1993 or 2000, September 11 attacks happened and the US military went to war.
Bush 43 sent our soldiers to war but did not ask the American People to invest themselves in this war, we were told to go shopping and live our lives and because of this in my opinion is why we forgot we were attacked.
When prisoners of war were captured they were not interrogated in the battlefield and they were not tried and sentenced to death in the battlefield. They were shipped to American soil and that put all Americans at danger with this action, those prisoners were interrogated on American soil and I believe that was a mistake.
In 2011 Seal team 6 attacked and killed Osama Bin Laden and President Obama who like President Clinton did nothing took full credit for the killing of Bin Laden.
It was the tactics employed by the CIA years before President Obama was elected that killed Bin Laden not the expert foreign policy of President Obama or Hilary Clinton or lack there of.
As you can see politically this all may have been avoided way back in the early 1990’s but it didn’t happen. We had defunded the Afghan rebels with Bush 41, We had a week president in Clinton and we had and president that refused to let the American people invest themselves in the Iraq and Afghan war and for that we are here in a place where we had to tolerate torture in order to keep our country safe and try and win a war that Americans had forgotten.
In 2008 we elected a president that is undoing everything that we went to war for in 2001 and now Christians in the Middle East are dying, children are having their heads cut off for believing in Jesus this is where we are so where will we go from here.
Now the Christian view, in my opinion no Christian tolerates or condones torture. For a long time now America has been pulling away from God, sometimes a lot and sometimes not at all but for the most part America has slowly pulled away from God but God has not turned his back on us.
We legalized the killing of unborn children and our country condones biblical immorality. The world is starting to no longer live in a black and white world and our country is mimicking this by excusing bad behavior. Doing wrong is no longer necessarily bad and our feelings are more important than following God’s moral law.
As Christians we too are attacked and are blind to God’s moral law and his ethical behavior. We make excuses for bad behavior and we do in the name of God’s love.
Christians are being attacked not always physically but mentally and socially and it’s wearing down on some. God’s love does not include condoning immorality, it does not condone putting other God’s before him.
There is a time when Christians have to stand up for what it right, what is moral and what is ethical the 10 commandment are not the 10 suggestions.
The more Christians give into changing God’s natural law, his moral law and ethical behavior the more division we create amongst ourselves. Satan is convincing Christians that we should not judge sin. Since we all sin we should just accept one another as we are and sin equally. The 10 commandment are just rules to live by.
This division Lucifer has created is causing Christians to lose common ground with each other. If we lose common ground with each other we are no longer practice Christianity but only practice religion and there will be no ground to stand together on.
As our country pulls away from God, his moral law and ethical behavior we then lose our faith in our country and in each other. It’s a division between the people and the government and if we demand our government to be secular and not follow God’s moral law and ethical behavior then why should we expect anything less than torture.
Our country was once strong in God, our military was week but we continued to grow none the less. Our country is now strong in government and week in God in my opinion will continue to get weaker as long as we continue to walk away from God.
Bottom line is as a Christian you can be upset and mad about what this country has done to try and protect not only you but over 300 million people that live in America but the fault does not lie with one person it lies with all of us. We are all to blame for this and if we don’t stop walking from God but instead to God we can expect more of this kind of behavior to come.
The above blog popped up on one of the blogging forums I use on Facebook, it was posted by Christian Surf and written by Allen Clifton who I’m kind of thinking is not a Christian as defined by most born again Christians would define but I can’t judge his heart only God can
It’s a pretty negative blog attacking Conservative Christians mainly Conservatives in general, I read through it and thought I would rebuttal as a conservative Christians since he’s calling me out I’ll answer his call.
The first thing is he labels all conservatives republicans and defines them as being in a cult but that simply is not true. Conservatives just can’t vote for democrats, the Democratic Party is way too progressive right now and is just too much like communism to me.
Believe me not all conservatives are republicans it’s just that’s all we can vote for, no conservative is thrilled with theses deadbeat rinos that come up for election but we either vote for them and try and change policy with a moderate republican or don’t vote and deal with deadbeat democrats and their socialism you can’t win either way.
Some conservatives will refuse to vote for moderate republicans no matter what is on the line they have too much conviction to compromise with socialism.
The next issue was abortion, as a Christian Mr. Clifton is against abortion and thinks it’s wrong and that’s really good to hear, it kind of leaves a emptiness in your soul when you meet a person that states they are a believer but thinks killing an unborn child is fine.
Clifton feels if somebody wants or has an abortion well that’s none of his business and frankly it’s nobody else’s business.
This is where I disagree and think why most level headed Christians have the view of “we cannot condone a society that kills its unborn”.
It should be all our concerns that we have legalized the murder of unborn children; it’s too convenient to just dismiss something that is wrong just because you’re told it’s none of your business.
My question to the Christian that views abortion is nobody’s business but the person having it is how do justify this if you know it’s wrong.
Would you stand by and knowingly let a person be murdered, would you be more concerned if your state government decided to legalize the killing of adults that stayed on government assistance for more than say 8 years and now is a burden on society.
What makes the abortion ok because it’s none of your business, because the child is not yet born, it can’t communicate or do complex rational thought so it’s not really a living person.
When does it not be okay, when the unborn child is 2 month in the womb, 3 months, 5, 8 when is it not okay to kill the unborn.
Guns, Mr. Clifton does not like people with guns well I own a few guns and I own them for protection. If somebody is breaking into my house I have an obligation to protect my family and I guarantee the police will not get to my house before the bad guy has done his bad deed.
Christians also believe in the 2nd amendment and the constitution that gives them freedom to bear arms.
The reason why our founding father constructed the 2nd amendment was not to just protect from home invasion of some random thug but to give the American citizen the ability to protect themselves from tyrannical power of a government and from the average thug that would threaten your personal property.
No Christian wants to use a gun but its there if we need it because some brilliant men thought it should be your right to protect yourself.
The next is Homosexuality, yes I’m opposed to the gay lifestyle on a few levels one being it’s against what the Bible teaches us as a matter of fact the inspired word of God (the Bible) discusses this at least twice first being Leviticus 18:22 and again the New Testament in Romans 1: 26-27. Mind you this verse is not condoning the act of homosexuality.
I don’t think God is just picking on the homosexual there is more here than just two of the same sexes trying to act like a heterosexual couples. Homosexuality if practiced is unsafe, unhealthy and brings risk not to mention it’s has no design to reproduce itself.
As a conservative I oppose homosexuality because the lifestyle is destructive and anti family. Today’s gay life is in your face “you must accept me and my life choices or else you’re a homophobe or a bigot” this is a sexually based sin that has embraced the politically correctness for safety.
It refuses to acknowledge its hurting and is based in a lie, becomes unstable for a society that tries to be the truth right for all that live in it.
I personally have had dealings with homosexuality in my own family and I have first hand seen the destructive behavior it has brought to not only my family but other families that it has involved with.
It’s morally wrong and biblically wrong, God does care when people hurt other people and hurt themselves it does matter to him.
Next is giving to charity and why go into this I’m at a loss, Clifton said he gives the conservative the nod on giving to charity but states why should we since their church tells them to give tithes anyhow.
Not all conservatives are Christian so can’t expect all to tithe to their church. Churches do not command that we tithe to them. I would say if you go to a church that expects you to give tithing then you should leave.
What the inspired word of God does say is this in 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 I believe most healthy Christians practice this in give based on its the right thing to do we do it out of our heart not because a church tells us to.
He goes on and pulls the greed card on conservatives that we all just want to be rich and hoard the money.
Yes we want a free market and yes capitalism is the best way to do business in a free market but you’re talking about capital cronyism not true free market capitalism where the government lets society earn their own money by working hard and helping those that cannot help themselves. The opposite of all this is communism and I’m not for that.
Right now both our state and federal governments punish you for succeeding in life by taxing you. They use those taxes wastefully if anyone should get a lecture on greed and selfishness it’s our government.
Clifton states that different denomination interprets the bible very differently and I do not agree on that. Most Judeo Christian denominations that are healthy in the word of God see God’s word all the same.
They may have different doctrines and put emphases on some biblical practices over the other but most view God’s word the same. What Clifton is talking about is religions and born again Christians don’t belong to a religion they belong to a relationship with God.
Clifton then ask what makes a person a Christian, is it going to church, reading the bible. Clifton believes that being a Christian comes down to who you are as a person and how closely you try and live your life with the beliefs of Jesus Christ and that is a pretty good answer except if the thief on the cross had followed that definition he would have gone to hell.
Salvation is what makes you a Christian, John chapter 3 verse 16 sums up what it takes to be a Christian and belong to Jesus Christ.
It is why an Atheist is not a Christian, it’s why a Muslim is not a Christian and why a ton of people that go through life thinking all I have to be is good and I’ll get to heaven are wrong Matthew chapter 7 verses 21-23
At the end Clifton just bashes conservative Christians for enjoying guns, practicing greed selfishness and hate. My question for Clifton that feels progressives and leftist are more compassionate…where is the compassion?
As we continue on our voyage in life on this great ship called America, secular creature comforts are becoming available and they promise for a quite and nonconfrontational life. These comforts can be identified as excepting immoral behavior in the name of getting along, abortion no big deal if it will uncomplicate my life, and give up some freedom for safety to our all knowing government based on fear tactics.
What are thought to be creature comforts are nothing more than heavy bricks of immorality and unethical behavior that hold down the truths that God gives us and what our forefathers died for.
Eventually those heavy bricks loaded down over time will turn this voyage into a destination of ruin. If Americans do not change and turn to God or at least follow a moral and ethical law this ship we call America will stop at a destination that will not be recognizable for anyone. We will no longer be able to know right from wrong, moral from immoral and know who God really is.
Reading an article in the Nation.com entitled “Congrats Pro Lifers you won! Now I have a few questions for you” by Katha Pollitt caught my interest and thought as a Pro lifer maybe I could answer those questions, but I might add Pro lifers have far from won anything. Abortion is still legal in this country so unborn children are still at risk of being terminated for no reason or for any reason.
Question 1 Illegal Abortions; was based on banning abortion making it illegal would drive women to get back alley abortions, not only injuring women in the process but killing them as well. You are right some women will still try and get out of the responsibility they have now put themselves into and there will be some women that will pay that price. We cannot just make abortion illegal but we have to stop it in the hearts and minds of or society. It’s like no longer enforcing theft as a crime. We know it’s wrong so we don’t need to bother enforcing it right? For some this is true but for others they will take advantage of it, yes we know in our hearts and minds theft is wrong some if not most of us wont do it. We don’t need a law to deter us but our society needs this law to show we do not condone theft therefore we will enforce the crime telling people theft is wrong and if you do it you will pay the price same idea for abortion. It is wrong and not only do we need to stop it we also need to educate people why it’s wrong so back alley abortions won’t happen.
Next question was compromise, Pro life wants compromise but pro choice feels it’s just a tactic to fully ban abortion. As a pro life person I do not compromise, abortion is morally wrong and I just can’t compromise when death is on the line. I get the compromise concept, if one waits longer to have an abortion they just might end up having the baby and oh how bad that would be.
Next Question is on birth control. Many are against birth control and you point out many are against the ACA ( Affordable Care Act) making employers carry certain birth control methods that they may be morally against. The concept of the ACA is based on we all use health care there for those who do not have insurance must be punished with a tax. If this is the way the government wants to define the ACA then why should an employer have to provide every kind of birth control made if there are some forms of control that they find morally wrong? Cannot the individual be responsible for his or her actions? One free mode of birth control is abstinence, I know that sound outrageous but it can be done and it is very cheap to do.
Question 4 is poverty, poor people need abortion because they cannot afford the children they produce, charities are not enough and the GOP is trying to defund every poverty law there is. This is sick nonsense and one of the biggest complaints that pro life people have for abortion is using it for birth control. The biggest problem with health care today is our government intruding and trying to control it to their advantage. You say charities are not enough but I say they are. There are plenty of non for profit organizations and churches that are tailored to help the poor and single mothers. If you cannot afford to bring a child in this world then maybe you should not have one again abstinence is an option. I’ve seen birth control as low as $10.00 in some places if a person cannot afford $10.00 then you need to redirect your priories from sex to something else like taking care of yourself and your family.
Question 5 Men; this is based on the lack of morality in society, what about the men that get a woman pregnant and walk away. Yes this is a problem and it goes back to it’s a moral problem. Again we have to change the hearts and minds of people, a man should not want to ever walk away from his family or responsibilities. This is again a major problem of the concept of free sex and no responsibility. This is why casual sex should not be promoted; it delegitimizes the women and the family and gives men the opportunity to shed their responsibilities as men.
Next question Equality; its based on the idea that somehow abortion will give women equality with men in finances and work. It’s called planning your life out, women can do something men can never do and that’s having children. It’s a great responsibility and honor that no man can ever achieve but with this responsibility one has to plan their life. To be a CEO of a giant company like Microsoft and have eight children is going to be a hard thing to do. Women that view work is greater than raising a family should then just stick to work. abortion is not needed, planning and personal responsibility is needed.
Question 7 Personhood, this is based on miscarriages and science; what about those tiny natural abortions that occur and what about stem cell research and IVF. Sometimes we go places we should not go and IVF might just be that, stem cell is very controversial. Do we have abortions to study how to make life better for future generations? I don’t feel destroying a life for the comfort of a future is worth dong after all you may have just aborted a life that would have found the cure for Brest Cancer. When we start to try and understand why things work sometimes we go way too far. There is a balance and it can be found, sometimes in the name of science ideas can go just too far and brakes need to be applied so we can study a bit more thorough than callous.
Next question is Murder and what should be done with these murderers. Yes I agree abortion is murder and although I would not act in such a way as some have in the past of going on a killing spree of doctors and staff workers that participate in abortions I do get it. You’re asking such a broad question because abortion is legal. First thing we have to do is change the heart, a person should never want an abortion and if they do it’s a sad thing. People should know there is always a way out instead of abortion, there are always will be people that will help and people should not be afraid to ask for help. If abortion was illegal then we would again allow a jury of his or her peers to decide if guilty or not. Punishment wise would be just that what do they do with murders in your state?
If these are not suitable answers I am sorry but these are my answers, I truly feel sorry for anyone that feels abortion is the only way out. To truly end abortion is not just to make it illegal because again theft is illegal and people still continue to steal and take thing that do not belong to them. To truly end abortion we have to change the heart of society not just make a law and that is the biggest obstacle that we a society today face is allowing our government to dictate morality to us because it fails every time.