Monthly Archives: December 2015

VIEWS MATTER

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The news of the day in the conservative Christian world easily has to be the open letter from John Piper to Jerry Falwell Jr. about Falwells comments on Christians and guns and the letter back from American Vision’s Dr. Joel McDurmon and a letter written in 2008 by Dr. James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries to John Piper explaining to Piper the Biblical response to responsible self defense of the Christian and how maybe some of Pipers letter may have gotten scripture wrong.

First of all let us set our players so everyone knows what the heck is going on here. John Piper is educated in seminary and is the founder of desiringgod.org. He is a prominent speaker and is held widely as having quite the knowledge of Biblical theology an authority worth listening to in short when it comes to many things in Christianity Piper is the one to listen to.

Jerry Falwell Jr. is the son of Jerry Falwell Sr. the founder of the moral majority that was so instrumental in the 80’s and 90’s with guiding the political moral fiber of this country, it seems Jr. has not fallen far from the tree. Falwell is now president of Liberty University the college Sr. founded.

Falwell spoke out on how Christians need to learn how, know and use guns for the coming future. This of course set out a barrage of negative discourse among liberals and liberal Christians a few weeks ago and Piper has weighed in on the Falwells speech as well.

What makes this a big deal is why Piper would bother to get into this kind of conversation. A conversation that one would surly loose if you understand the Biblical construct of self defense and the knowledge of why conservative Christianity backs these kind of ideas. It tells a lot about Piper, it tells us either Piper has completely misunderstood Falwell (which is the belief I hold) or the liberal cracks are beginning to show in Pipers theology (which is the belief I hold as well).

I will confess I don’t know Piper and Falwell extremely well. What exposure I have had with Piper is negative at best. Watching him on a round table Q&A show hosted by Ligoneir ministries it was very front and center that Piper was acting liberal as he tried to defend a subject on social liberalism opposing the conservative view, a viewpoint that would only be rational in a perfect world and we don’t live in a perfect world.

Now don’t get this wrong this is not a scathing attack on John Piper for talking bad about guns. Much like Glenn Beck Piper has entered an arena he ought not to tread.

Glenn Beck is probably in the top three most brilliant persons in the conservative political movement. His understanding of politics is beyond most and mainly because he has values. But when Beck steps into the arena of religion and theology he immediately becomes a 4 year old and understands nothing of the God of the Bible, religion in general even his own and nothing of theology.

Piper is the same, in theology and understanding the Bible and God he is a giant and deserves nothing but respect. As soon as Piper enters that field of politics and social understanding of the secular man his wisdom drops to that of an 8 year old. Yes he can take and quote scripture to try and defend his case but his liberalistic ideas hold him back. He does not understand the conservative idea of social issues and thus I think Piper misunderstands those points of scripture, note this is nothing that anyone has not done no one is immune to this.

Why is this important why do we care and should we care? Well yes we need to care when a giant in theology attacks Christian conservatism because our theology partly rest on these ideas.

I suspect Piper does understand what he is doing he is a brilliant man but my question is does Piper really misunderstand this issue or does he want to believe this way. Better defined does Piper want the scripture to say something it might not be saying because this is what he believes in his social political beliefs.

Theology aside politics matters, I have said this before politics is woven in the fabric of the country and our lives because we are given the freedom to be a part of the freedom.

I have said before liberal Christians will often leave their politics for their liberal religion while conservative Christians will not, they hold to both the theology and the politics that allows the freedom of ideas. This is why conservative Christians have spoke out against Pipers letter to Falwell. It is not because they want to take down a theology giant but because it matters and we care what Piper says and believes. Conservatives don’t hate Piper they are concerned for Piper and how his words affect society.

John Pipers view is nothing new, I have read many blogs and articles from liberal Christians as to why we should not own guns, most of these bloggers will give away to self defense but some still hold that we must lay our weapons down for Gods trust it is not us that exacts the punishment.

I urge you to read both Dr. Whites and Dr. McDurmon’s response letters to Piper to fully understand the conservative Christian’s view. Again I am not deterring anything from John Pipers Biblical theology and understanding; I personally am a 2 year old when it comes to theology compared to Piper. What I am pointing out is when Christians like Piper take scripture out of context  or misunderstand scripture it feeds their ideology and that is not good. Whether it was done on purpose or the fact Piper wants to believe this it still is not good.

We all have misunderstood or taken scripture out of context, it is easy to do but we have to remember as Christians we are in this together and being divided serves no one.

With that said this just shows there is a battle of conservative and liberal ideas in the Christians community and there will be casualties for things said.

Piper brings so much to the table of Christian theology, evangelism and teaching just as Glenn Beck brings so much to the political table but people have to understand their strengths that God has blessed them with and try not to stretch those muscles beyond their capability. Most of all truth must reign first and only first both in Christianity, theology and the social arena.

 

 

CONSERVATIVE CONTRAST

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There is a contrast that separates conservatives and conservative Christians in general and the news of this week shows this contrast well.

Make no mistake conservative and conservative Christians are not at odds with each other, most of the time they are very tightly joined but when theology is involved Christians will start to circle the wagons of their faith more so than the average conservative.

This week in the news shows us this contrast with the Christian faith in The God of the Bible and the defense of Donald Trump. Christians are dealing with so called liberal Christians that assert that the God of Islam is the same God of the Bible while conservatives are dealing with the defense of free speech of Donald Trump from calling Hilary a liar to speeches by Trump causing peaceful Muslims to become radicalized for saying maybe some Mosques need to be shut down.

Both issues are slightly related to each other but still both issues have complete non related outcomes. For the conservative it’s like a fresh drink of water to have a candidate say what everyone is thinking. We know Hilary and the DNC is in a constant lie and most Americans are in fear of Muslims and what kind of violence can ensue.

For the Christian conservative that follows Jesus the idea that Allah and “Elohim or I Am” being the same god is heresy at best it is defiantly is not a heterodox in any stretch of the imagination no matter how much liberal Christians want this to be true. Yes while Christianity, Islam and Judaism fall under the idea of theism Christians are by no means worshiping the same god of Islam.

While conservatives deal with free speech and the undermining of the liberal agenda that marks the main stream media and the DNC the conservative Christians deal with both issues since truly a conservative Christian must make all issues be a part of the Christian view and that includes dealing with candidates that people inside the conservative cause don’t necessarily agree with or even have any reason to side with. The goal would be to work inside the Christian world view in the hopes it works with the moral law of God and the American view of freedom and the constitution that our founding fathers and framers developed for us.

For the most part Christians in general whether they are conservative or liberal battle the political and religious end of their ideology. Liberals will tend to leave the politics in favor of liberal theology while conservative Christians normally will not.

Conservative Christians understand the fabric of politics that is woven into religion. While conservative Christians normally will not allow politics to make or break their theology, politics does impact the society we live in and can effect how that theology is spoken, delivered and received making politics important in not only the Christian world view but the world view in general.

What conservative have to understand, whether they are non believers of God or bordering on atheism, whether they are Jewish or apart of polytheism is that Christianity is the cornerstone of the American foundation of this county. People like Dennis Prager know and understand this and they know and understand how much the belief in God and Christianity in general has shaped this country.

One of the main reason why liberals want to fundamentally change America is because people are not  bowing down to progressiveness that does not believe in secular relativism. Not only is America too white, too capitalist it is also too Christian and that cannot be a part of a liberal America.

Conservatives have known they all are an enemy of the liberal, harsh words enemy but sadly it’s true. Liberals have no need for conservative values, yes some may love God but for the most part they dislike the idea that requires repentance and a declaration to follow Jesus in the same breath. Liberal Christians want that red letter love and nothing to do with obedience to God because that takes away the idea of free will and autonomy.  Liberal Christians that believe in repentance, following Jesus and being obedient to God always throw in the love first for everyone that questions disobedience and demands repentance not fully understanding that with love comes obedience but before all that we need to truly repent.

While conservatives in general do not need to completely know and understand the theology of Christianity  or each individuals philosophy they do need to know and understand how Christianity and the belief in the God of the Bible have shaped this country. Knowing how gives understanding how conservatism works in a joint effort of multi beliefs.

Christian conservatives have to balance these multi beliefs and they have to learn it is not a deal breaker to work with beliefs that are not Christian beliefs but still function with in Gods moral law. Not everyone will follow the conservative Christian idea that is for sure but we can still live and work in the same world, we can still share in ideas that will grow this country for the better.

Taking the conservative ideas that are not Christian in general and transforming and changing these multi views into a Christian view might still could be done. We  just have to view core beliefs as important to all conservatives hard to do sometimes but important for stability. Building on a good conservative idea that is not Christian can be done and for the believer may even be an idea that can be transformed into the Christians world view.

As we go into an election year understand it will be a fight but I believe it is key for conservatives to stay strong, stay logical and stay united. Liberalism and moderates riding the fence lack logic and unity something the conservative idea should do its best to capitalize on. The goal is simple, bring back America before we loose it.

THE CROSS AND THE WEAPON

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Another mass shooting and another plea by liberal Christians to increase gun control, or just ban them all together. Would Jesus be pro second amendment, would Jesus speak out against those who own guns or weapons in today’s world well to be frank its irrelevant.

We can speculate and speculate, we can take scripture in and out of context to try and make our case but to me it’s irrelevant. Jesus came to bring us the free gift of salvation. He didn’t get too political or religious something people can’t seem to not do because we are not God.

Jesus never really spoke of ownership of weapons, whether or not it is good or bad but he did speak several times on defending ourselves and the Bible in whole speaks about defense as well

Luke 22:35-36, Exodus 22:2-3, Luke 22:38, Psalm 18:34, Psalm 144:1 and 2 Samuel 22:35

Now while the Bible and Jesus do offer a defense of one’s self it is very clear that God tells us never take revenge. There is a complete difference in being prepared for self defense, pre meditated murder and revenge something my liberal Christians fail to see. One can also read Matthew 18:6 where Jesus is quite clear about when people injure children. I have a hard time believing God would not want us to defend a Childs life at all cost.  Matthew 18:6 begs for today’s liberal Christian to ask why God would want somebody to take their own life.

My liberal Christians fail to see it is not the weapon that makes one kill or promote killing it is the depraved heart that turns a person’s mind against Gods nature. It’s the person that kills not the weapon and we are not talking about people accidently kill themselves by discharging a weapon, people die all the time doing stupid and adventurous stuff don’t blame the gun on a ignorant mind.

It’s easy to blame people with guns for killing but don’t you dare blame the person and their depraved heart and mind for killing. When we preach that there is nothing greater than “Jesus is love” but conveniently forget repentance and forgiveness then you are giving out what Dietrich Bonheoffer would say “Cheap Grace”.

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Our liberal Christians don’t like to mention nor even think humans can sink so low as to be callus and depraved in everything they do. We have to accept everything people do and when you counter that acceptance then you are the problem. It’s the Christians that speak out against LGBTP, pornography or refuse to believe in climate change, they are the ones to blame.  Two Islamist go on rampage and it’s not them it’s my fellow Christians that love guns fault. One has to wonder of the 14 people killed by our two Muslim killers if just two of the 14 would had been carrying guns would all 14 people be dead now.

These are issues that everyone is struggling with right now, the liberal Christian can’t get past that Christians that believe in self defense are not making the 2nd amendment their idol.  Liberals can’t get past that humans are depraved by nature and when they choose wrong over right they sometimes not only kill the body but the  mind and soul as well.

Controlling or banning weapons won’t solve the evil that rest in the heart and mind of humans. Nobody ever shoots a gun again problem solved but death never stops. We need to ban gun, bats, knifes, how about pornography what about drugs, child abuse. Liberal Christian, have you ever thought about why people do evil?

I ask liberal Christians to stop blaming and start praying. Stop worrying about what others deem opposite of your agenda and start praying that what you hold to be true also  be true with the mind of God. Stop tolerating evil and start asking for forgiveness, stop worrying about your conservative’s bother plank that is in their eyes and worry about the tree that is in your eyes.